Thanks to BornSlippy for starting this thread. It's time MyWot get exposed for what it is: a troll-filled website.
To make things clear, I'm the guy behind Dukeo. I originally didn't plan to answer to this thread because the post I made on my blog is quite explicit by itself. However, by reading the reply that g7w is giving to this post, I have no choice but adding my own views.
First of all, I'd like to say that I did my homework before exposing MyWot in my blog post (http://dukeo.com/myw...b-totalitarism/
) and I do not (contrary to web of trust users) post libel just for the sake of trashing a business.
Let's take things in order (prepare some coffee, it's going to be a long read).
G7W says: "In the OP the domain dukeo.com and affhelper.com are referenced. Both promote MLM/ Affiliate / stay at home, "get rich quick" schemes."
1/ If you check Dukeo's scorecard on MyWot (http://www.mywot.com...ecard/dukeo.com
), you'll see that the highest comment (posted by another power user of Web Of Trust) says: "They know how WOT works , but because they have been rated poorly , they attack WOT in the only way they know how , through misleading statements or downright lies Not a trusted site ="
-> This first comment is highly misleading! If you check my blog post, you'll see that I posted on my blog BEFORE Dukeo was ranked on MyWot. This proves that my site was voted down just because I was sharing my views about MyWot. And since it was going against their single-track mind, my website got trashed.
2/ The fact that G7W puts "MLM", "Affiliate", "stay at home" and "get rich quick" all in the same bag shows once again that these guys judge a lot of websites without first-hand experience or without having a clue about what they are talking about.
-> First of all, I don't promote MLM (thanks for being misleading once again G7W). I do promote Blogging and Affiliate Marketing. If G7W was just a little informed about affiliation, he would probably know that a LOT of big brands are using this mean to promote their websites and it's a completely legit business model, or maybe you want to question the legitimacy of Amazon.com which built itself thanks to this model. I do also promote "stay at home", because that's actually what I'm doing for a living: working from home.
As a sidenote: G7W, if the whole affiliate marketing is so evil, please be my guest and target Amazon.com with your power-user friends. Once you'll manage to get all links to Amazon blocked from Facebook, MyWot will just get their ass sued thanks to your efforts. But MyWot will eventually "fix" the issue to avoid issues with such a big company.
It's as if you decided to trash the whole automotive industry because your local car reseller screwed you with a bad deal... This would be completely out of scale.
3/ Let's come back to the scorecard about Dukeo.com and check the other comments made by MyWot users who apparently have a problem with my blog... Myxt writes: "This web site promotes multiple "easy money" spammers and scammers and fails to appear legitimate through spammy, useless blog articles."
-> This one is as informed and intelligent as the reply of G7W here putting in the same bag "easy money", "spammers" and "scammers". I never say that making money is "easy" (it's even stated in the terms and conditions of my blog), it's actually a lot of work... Thank you for associating me with Spammers and Scammers... Do you really know what a spammer does? Do you know what a scammed does? Any proof of me being any of these? Any real argument to back this up? No need for proof, it's posted anonymously on MyWot!
5/ Let's move to the comment left by "marinated" which apparently either is a competitor of mine, or just want to get accepted in the "MyWot troll pack", he writes: "This site operators pay spammers good money to litter blogs, forums, and other communities all across the web. The spammers themselves is bad, but these guys ultimately create a demand for spammers thus initiating the entire process. May they one day pay for the countless hours they have strained upon legitimate people online."
-> Seriously? Just wow! That's pure libel. With my blog I don't make that much money, so please explain how I could "pay spammers good money". The guy who posted that can't possible have any clue since I have NEVER done anything like that. This just shows that if you want to get into the club, you try to copy the "big guys", so you just trash other people for the sake of trashing them even if you don't have a single proof to back up your claims.
6/ I have to admit that I may have, from time to time, some people who are buying some advertising space on my site to promote some questionnable products. But are you going to judge my site because of the ads you are being served? If that's the case, maybe you should review all the "full green" ratings of streaming websites such as Channel1 (http://www.mywot.com...ard/1channel.ch
) and Megaupload (rip) (http://www.mywot.com.../megaupload.com
) because they are serving some scammy advertising pretending that you won a prize or that you can win a green card online, or whatever... And I'm not even talking about sites such as ThePirateBay (http://www.mywot.com...hepiratebay.com
) which is even rated yellow for child safety even though a part of the site is about illegal material and kids have some chances of downloading a porno instead of the movie they were looking for. The userbase of MyWot craves illegal stuff such as streaming and they're supposed to be trustworthy? You know what.. It's up to you to decide if I am trustworthy or not, but at least I don't hide my name, I don't hide who I am and I don't hide where I come from. All this info can be found on my blog. When you truly believe in what you are doing, what is the point in hiding behind anonymity? Yet, this is what all users on MyWot are doing, thinking they are some kind of vigilante...
7/ A little sidenote. When I check the comments left on a lot of scorecards, I can see that MyWot really has a problem with the whole advertising thing. There is a tracking script called Prosper202 which is widely used to track visitors and all the websites on which it is installed are voted red for "click tracking". The interesting thing, when you think about it, is that neither Google.com or Adsense.Google.com or Gmail.com is voted red for this reason... Even though you are fully profiled by these services to be served targeted advertising. That's quite interesting, don't you think? This just demonstrates that MyWot users are in no way specialists but just "guys next door" who were given a nice toy and too many responsibilities, they learned to perform a few automated checks on websites and they think they are security experts.
8/ Let's continue with one of my prefered examples that demonstrates how WOT works: Aweber.com (http://www.mywot.com...card/aweber.com
). You'll notice on the scorecard that the 4 grades are in the green (which tends to demonstrate that the majority of people voted it as a trusted site). Now, take a look at the comments... Not a single positive comment on the first page! It goes from "Ethical issues" to "Spam" and "Spyware or adware" or "Phishing or other scams". Now, for those of you who don't know, Aweber is a third-party website that allows any business owner to manage his mailing list(s). If we take a closer look at the comment of G7W, we can read: "Also, this service is used by Scamers / Spammers to harvest email address for "Get Rich Quick" schemes and/or lists created for the intent to share and/or sell."
-> First of all, if G7W had a single clue about Aweber, he would know that Aweber does not allow people to use their service for spam. They have safeguards in place such as double opt-in. It means that to get subscribed to a mailing list managed by Aweber, you have to go through 2 steps: 1/ Submit your email address through a form, and 2/ (here is one of the many safeguards) receive an email, and click on a confirmation link inside that email to confirm that you DO want to receive further information from the person owning the mailing list. Now, if you've confirmed your subscription, it's not spam! Moreover, if you don't want to receive information anymore, all emails are including an "unsubscribe" link that will stop all further messages after only 1 click. The last part of G7W's comment tends to demonstrate what could be a political/ideological view: "and/or lists created for the intent to share and/or sell"... If selling is a bad thing in the mind of G7W, I understand why he likes to trash small business' owners through MyWot.
9/ One of the biggest flaws of MyWot is that it relies on opinions of anonymous people. Sorry for being a sceptic, but I tend to believe that there is no intelligence in an anonymous crowd (and I am not the only one, I invite you to Google: "anonymous crowd psychology" and read some of the research articles, it's extremely interesting). An anonymous crowd is generally made of anonymous leaders and anonymous followers, it's not some kind of haven where everyone is equal (it's quite funny actually that the "weight system" which is applied on MyWot votes completely demonstrates this). Instead of relying on the opinions of total strangers, I would advise people to use a combination of 3 things: 1/ A proper combo Antivirus/Firewall, 2/ plugins that rely on software detection, such as Site Advisor (it will protect you from spyware and auto-downloaders), 3/ Your own judgement. If you are not able to judge a website by yourself, you shouldn't be on the internet in the first place. If you don't feel comfortable about a website, trust your own judgement and stay away from this website. As per child safety, leaving your child browsing the internet without supervision, or at least some kind of Parental Control software is foolish and totally unresponsible.
10/ You can see that G7W puts all kinds of stuff in the same bag and judges websites and whole industries with a cookie-cutter attitude and a 6 seconds review per website (talk about in-depth first-hand experience), and it harms small businesses (but he doesn't care because he rates negatively website which have the goal of "selling"). Imagine the kind of influence he can have on the crowd of newbie users on MyWot who want to become as powerful on MyWot as he is... Scary.
11/ Let's move on to another (yes another one..) misleading argument given by G7W: "That's the thing, many people bash WOT saying it blocked them from some site; all they have to do is rate it - WOT doesn't warn you for sites you rate green."
-> This is utterly misleading because of the weight system that is applied to votes! If a random visitor is blocked for a given website that he likes, he can always vote "in the green" for it. However, if someone like g7w votes "in the red" for the same site, it will need tens (if not hundreds or thousands) of casual visitors to counter the 1 single vote of g7w: The system is just biased.
12/ I should thank again the person who initiated this post on the forum and given a possibility to expose MyWot once again. This is typically the kind of post that would get deleted or trolled if it was posted on MyWot forums so it's good to see these questions asked on other websites and forums.
13/ I must add one last thing: since I made this post on my blog to expose Web Of Trust, it got ranked very high in search results for various searches related to MyWot. As a reaction, MyWot started a reputation management campaign by creating profiles on various websites to try to push my article down in the search engine results and bury it. Thankfully, my article is staying strong. If there was any kind of lie in my blog post, don't you think that Web Of Trust would sue me for libel or at least sent me a C&D to get the article down? If they wanted to sue me, they could easily find my real name on my blog as I don't hide behind a pseudo like their army of trolls. But they can't do it because I did my homework and what I say in my blog post is 100% true. (In my research about their system I uncovered some other information that could be critical to them in case of taking me to court, but you'll understand that I keep that in my sleeve for now. Just in case. Because I don't really trust Web Of Trust.)
14/ Let's conclude this very long reply with a real-life example: Imagine you just moved to a new neighborhood. You're at home but you want to go out for a while. On your way back from work a couple hours ago, you noticed a small coffee shop that might be worth a visit. You walk to the place, but just before you reach the door, a man with a mask on his face stops you and yells at you: "don't go to this place, they eat babies for breakfast!" Are you going to blindly follow the advice of this complete stranger (who might just be the owner of the coffee shop next door, or maybe a complete psycho)? Or are you going to visit the coffee shop anyway to make your own opinion?
Even worse if there are 4 of these guys wearing masks. They stand in front of the door and strongly advise you to not visit this coffee shop for whatever reason. The fact that they are 4 gives them more weight, yet they could be hired by the competition or just scare people for fun, or they could be psychos... You can never know. And yet, since they are several, you may be a little afraid and you may think that several people getting to a consensus might know the truth. If you don't go into the coffee shop and make your own opinion, you'll never know!