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[DrBOP]

I have the dreaded "red x's" problem. Diferent sites, different pics, different graphics show up with no image ; instead, I get small black box with a red x in it. (I even get it on this forum's homepage, and am missing graphics from the page I am typing on now.)

I am using : HP Desktop ; Windows XP ; IE8 ; MalwareBytes ; Spybot ; Avast (free home edition) ; Auslogics registry cleaner ; Auslogics defragger ; CC cleaner ; my geezer brain with 20 years computer use and medium knowledge level.

I have tried EVERYTHING over the past 6 months to rid my computer of this problem. I have visited MANY help pages (of course including MS, etc) and MANY tek forums. I (think) I KNOW it is a browser problem (cannot for various reasons change from IE) ; I have tried all their suggested fixes = zip ; I have combed the net and used MANY sugested fixes = zip..

Now it has been suggested that the problem may lie in the settings of one of my malware protection programs. Or that it may be a conflict between the settings of my malware protection programs. Since I am already very busy building a new website for the non-profit org I work for, I am just throwing the problem out to this forum's fellow members. Is there any chance that Malwarebytes has a setting I should change? Anyone else have this problem with a similar config as mine?

Thanks VERY much for your time and consideration.

[noknojon]

Auslogics registry cleaner = Could be 75% of your problems -
If you can tell me how your regstry got dirty, and how Auslogics know how to clean All XP based computers, regardless of the installed programs and settings on each unit then it will be a miracle -
This is the total value of all Registry Cleaners ..........................


Follow these directions ==>>> http://forums.malwar...indpost&p=46166 and let the experts review your problems -

Thank You -

[ShyWriter]

DrBOP, on 21 April 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

I have the dreaded "red x's" problem. Diferent sites, different pics, different graphics show up with no image ; instead, I get small black box with a red x in it. (I even get it on this forum's homepage, and am missing graphics from the page I am typing on now.)
[...]
Thanks VERY much for your time and consideration.

Check your browser's OPTIONS settings to see if LOAD IMAGES is set to ON or OFF.. I know you said you're using IE but this is what it looks like in Firefox so you'll know kind of what you're looking for.



If that's not your problem, have you tried a different browser to see if is actually a browser problem or something else?

Steve

[DrBOP]

noknojon......Fantastic avatar, and EXCELLENT gff,but my registry is fine. I've been using Auslogic progs for 8 years and no probs there.
ShyWriter......Thanks, but WAY beyond that stage in my quest.
And THANK-YOU both VERY much for your replies. The computer in question is DEFINITELY not infected (at least according to deep scans with MalwareBytes, Spybot or Avast). What I was hoping was that someone else on this forum had a "non-compatibility" conflict with their security progs that was alleviated by changing the settings in one of the progs. The computer in question is also 9 years old, has had many "admins" over the years, and I think it may be time to put it out of it's misery.
Thanks again for trying to help. Keep on chooglin'!

[CWB]

as long as you mentioned "... 9 years old ..." and "replacement" .
(i'll play the devil's advocate here)

it might be a good idea to do that , 9 is sort of ancient in computer years (measured like dog years) :
the new "anti" programs as well as others are more cpu and memory hungry
the wear and tear on the power supply and other assorted items
yep , i would strongly consider investing in a new machine .

you could then work on the old machine at your leisure and if something goes wrong ...
wipe the drive and install ubuntu .

if you start another thread/topic about purchasing a new comp and post some links , i am sure that some here would be happy to proffer some suggestions .
there is a lot of junk out there as well as overpriced hype .

[ShyWriter]

DrBOP, on 23 April 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

noknojon......Fantastic avatar, and EXCELLENT gff,but my registry is fine. I've been using Auslogic progs for 8 years and no probs there.
ShyWriter......Thanks, but WAY beyond that stage in my quest.
And THANK-YOU both VERY much for your replies. The computer in question is DEFINITELY not infected (at least according to deep scans with MalwareBytes, Spybot or Avast). What I was hoping was that someone else on this forum had a "non-compatibility" conflict with their security progs that was alleviated by changing the settings in one of the progs. The computer in question is also 9 years old, has had many "admins" over the years, and I think it may be time to put it out of it's misery.
Thanks again for trying to help. Keep on chooglin'!

Hi again;

It occurred to me ( in a dream last night; I shouldn't watch stuff like AIRBENDERS before I go to bed ).. Does IE 6 support the PNG graphics format?? If not, that would explain why other browsers you try work and IE doesn't as a lot of web sites use PNG pix these days iinstead of JPG and GIF. The reason I ask is you DID see both John's animated GIF (about registry cleaners) and my JPG/GIF in my post too if I read your last "Thank You" post correctly.. Just curious..

Steve

[David H. Lipman]

You cannot view some PNG images in Internet Explorer 6

Cause: "This problem occurs when the file size of the PNG file is 4,097 bytes or 4,098 bytes."

Resolution: "To apply this hotfix, you must have Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1) installed on the computer."

Fixed in IE6 SP1 and above so if XP is at SP3 level then IE6 is at SP2 level and there should be no problem with PNG fiiles.

[ShyWriter]

David H. Lipman, on 26 April 2012 - 10:29 AM, said:

You cannot view some PNG images in Internet Explorer 6

My hero! Thanks Dave.. (99.99% indeed.. *grin* You earned it this time, for sure..)



Mucho gracias,
Steve

EDIT: My 00.01% Addendum

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Side note: 99.99% + 00.01% (Dave plus me = 100.00%) *private joke*

Edited by ShyWriter, 26 April 2012 - 10:44 AM.

[David H. Lipman]

Yeah but DrBop indicated "Windows XP ; IE8"

[ShyWriter]

David H. Lipman, on 26 April 2012 - 10:35 AM, said:

Yeah but DrBop indicated "Windows XP ; IE8"

I don't have an eidetic memory but I swear he originally said IE 6 BUT since he doesn't have EDIT capability (only 2 posts) I guess I'm blind as a fracking bat yet once again.. (I gots to get me some new glasses.. Next social security check; I promise.. )

Soooo.. let's try this again:
Red X showed for .png images in internet explorer 8

• http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283807
  
• http://forums.techar...net/1392534.htm
  
• http://answers.micro...94-880293911e79
  
• http://stackoverflow...red-x-sometimes
  
• Just a few I found in a Google search..

Steve

[DrBOP]

Greetings everyone, and especially ShyWriter. Yep, stated in original post that I'm using IE8. And also I pretty well know my way around the computer world. Built a Tandy kit back in 1972, went to a couple of garage computer meetings in Cali in the mid-70s, and have been on "the net" since BEFORE the net when it was called the Intranet "supposedly" limited to military/university use*+).
The only reason I'm using this HP beater is because the non-profit group I'm working for can't afford a new one right now. But mounting difficulties that I'm having with machine will serve to bolster my argument that we NEED to update. I mean, C'MON.......WHO uses a machine made in 2003 these days???
Having said all that, I do seriously appreciate VERY much all who have responded. I knew it would be a shot-in-the-dark by posting; and still hoping that someone else might have run into conflicting settings among security programs. Also apologize for tardiness of replies, but I'm working three jobs right now so unable to be glued to the box/net. Thanks again everyone.
(And ShyWriter......YES, watch that tv addiction habit.......pretty soon you might succumb to a.....a......COMMUNITY HABIT :+))) I'm pretty strung our myself......OH......OH......THERE'S my problem.....I should be getting ahold of Ahbed.......I'm callin' him RIGHT NOW!!!)

[David H. Lipman]

My advice for a system 9 yrs old...

Make sure it has at least 1GB of RAM and wipe and reinstall the OS from scratch.

BTW: Tandy was Dandy but Liquor is Quicker.

I remember working on a Tandy computer that was using a 80186 CPU. They were usually used in asymmetrical coprocessing applications such as in a SCSI controller or a network interface card (NIC) but to use one as the main CPU ? That was unusual. People know about 8080, 8086 and 80286 but you rarely saw i186 CPUs outside of controllers.

You old ARPANET user you...

[Firefox]

Hey I still have a HeadStart computer that has an 8086/8088 processor in it that runs at my moms house. Its used mainly now for just playing some very old games, but the kids get a kick out of using a dinosaur. That was the first computer I bout and paid about $2800 for it. It has like 4MB ram and a 40MB hard drive in it. (if I remember the specs correctly) No windows on that one.... hehe

[David H. Lipman]

Firefox, on 26 April 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

It has like 4MB ram and a 40MB hard drive in it. (if I remember the specs correctly) No windows on that one.... hehe

Then you must have installed an ISA Expanded Memory Module (EMM) Card to bring it from 1MB to 4MB as DOS couldn't handle more than 640KB. RAM was fun in those days. You had to install RAM ICs in banks of 9 (1 per memory bit and 1 for parity)

The hard disk size is good as well. Back in those days we were using ST225 (20MB, 5 1/4" drive) MFM drives and ST235 (30MB, 5 1/4" drive) RLL drives.
People didn't realize that all you had to do was take a a ST225 drive and put it on a Run Length Limited (RLL) controller instead of a Modified Frequency Modulation (MFM) controller and you got 50% more disk space (30MB instead of 20MB) and 50% more speed. At that time Steve Gibson (GRC) made his fortune on a program that allowed you to optimize the drive interleave pattern. Optimizing a drive to a 1:1 ratio would provide a faster seek time than a drive at 1:2 , 1:3, etc. What people didn't know was that there was a ROM chip on the hard disk and was at C800 (this was a memory address above 640KB because DOS could only handle 1MB) and all you had to do was load the DOS DEBUG.EXE utility and enter; g=c800:5 (go at address c800 offset 5) and it would run a menu driven routine, from ROM, where you could change the drive interleave FOR FREE and one didn't need Gibson's crap software.

All you needed (at that time frame) to run Windows v1.0 was; DOS v2.x, 256KB RAM (preferably 1MB RAM and an EMM card), a Colour Graphics Adapter (CGA) or a Hercules Monochrome Adapter, a 20MB hard disk and a serial mouse.

[CWB]

"I mean, C'MON.......WHO uses a machine made in 2003 these days???"

my gf does ... she "inherited" the one i built for "us" in 2004 (ehhh , close enough) .
it still works great for all that she wants/needs to do on it .
it uses an asus P4P800S MB ...
and man , let me tell ya , the thing ran 24/7 (i s*** you not) up till about 2 years ago .

my first comp (owned) was a tandy model 1/level 1 .
the first comp i laid my hands on was a PDP8/E in '74 .

man , i remember fixing a problem similar to your problem many years ago , but i think it was on a W98-2 machine .
probably nothing relevant in this case .

@ david :
i have a couple of ST-225 HDs ...
what is the blue plastic rectangle on the bottom of the pcb for ?

[DrBOP]

Once again, thanks everybody for input.
However, and a BIT off topic, I have something else to bring up that you may want to input on. As a near-geezer I remember when I was young I PROMISED myself I would NEVER become like my parents, or old people in general = rejecting everything/anything that was new ; thinking that the only good music was the music they listened to when they were young ; TOTALLY rejecting long hairs, hippies and ESPECIALLY THEIR music ; recreational drug use while they consumed MASS quantities of "mother's little helper and alcohol ; yadayada.
The reason I mention this is that I think I've kept up my promise to myself.....until lately. LOVE (mostly) what the "yoots" are up to (social media, occupy, etc.). My problem is with the ways in which computering and the net has become so.......dare I say it.....unecessarily COMPLICATED. This "red x" problem is one example I think. As I have been trolling the multitude of forums for the past 4 months or so, there are literally hundreds of thousands of people who have this problem in one form or another,with some of the threads dating from 2004!. The suggested fixes number in the hundreds. Why?
Well, that's part of the problem .....a few decades ago there was a time that the larger corporations in the hardware/software game decided that they weren't going to share info/programming/patents ; and this complexity I complain about is a DIRECT outcome from that decision by the corps. We are (literally) paying for the fact that these corps decided to try to say to the "consumer" that "my" system/software is better than theirs so buy mine and NO one elses ; and to hell with the consequences.
But also, the net (although WONDERFUL in MANY ways) seems to have become mostly consumer-oriented. Pages taking FOREVER to load ; servers getting gunged up with all kinds of crap ; the MOST IRRITATING flash ads imaginable ; neat programming being unnecessarily updated over time where it becomes useless ; and when you do find something that works well, or feeds your inner needs/desires, you can bet dollars to donuts that it will get f*cked up soon enough. For example, it's drivin' me crazy watchin' Google simply becoming the new version of Big Blue IBM. Many of their latest missives are ALL about serving the major corporations in the world (i.e., "How can we reimagine old major corporations advertising campaigns so that they get a better response from internet users?")

So, am I becoming like my parents were? It seems like many of you folks have been around awhile......is anybody else getting a little weary of the schmaltz? I have seriously contemplating chuckin' it all and heading for Maui. If I need to check emails, or see what the Onion is up to, or check out Funny Or Die's latest, I'll head for the local library's computers (which hopefully will be hooked-up to a mainframe network) where at least the pages will load quickly. And spend the majority of my time enjoying the sun and the sand. Sure, even that could get a bit boring, but at least I wouldn't have to put up with ANOTHER Netfucks pop-up.(And getting to the point where one could actually be bored with the sun and sand would HAVE to be an enjoyable process, eh?)
And honestly, I'm NOT ranting here.....just tryin' to figure out if this is the first vestiges of FULL BLOWN geezerhood, or are things just getting to be kinda crappy?


And PS : I have another computer ( a pretty cool hotrod IBM original) so it's NOT the 2003 HP that I'm "forced" to use at the non-profit org that's bringin' me down. And maybe it's just past my bedtime :+))) It's just you folks seem to be fairly hip, so just wonderin' about your thoughts. And, YES, you can call me over the hill, or a flamin' idiot, or anything you'd like. I can handle it. Keep on chooglin'! (And unfortunately, remember that I'm workin' 3 jobs right now so my replies will most likely be once a day in the early eve EST......so no "real" back and forth realtime dialogue.....sorry.) Thanks.

[CWB]

heh ... welcome to being a trainee geezer .
i will be 56 this summer . i was hell on wheels in my "formative years" .
however , you seem to be from the generation after mine , but i have the theory that in many ways after a certain age we all start sharing common traits .

the first time my gf called me a "curmudgeonly conservative" i wholeheartedly denied it .
i always thought myself to be somewhat liberal in my views and actions .
i guess that *somewhere* along the way i changed .

computers , much as any other technology , are/is subject to the same forces that have plagued other technologies through the ages .
when hitler seen a demonstration of television in '39 he said it was something that "should not be in the hands of the public" ... he knew a propaganda tool when he seen one .
television scared him from the aspect of being able to educate the masses as to the truth and hence it was detrimental to his long term agenda .
did he have a deep understanding of the technical aspects of television ?
i would bet that he did not and that it extended to other technology aspects/products ... he was an "end user" .

i suppose that all manner of technological "breakthroughs" have been looked upon by some as being "no good" and the beginning of the end .
consider how the automobile was viewed by different "factions" in the early years of development .
some were for it ; the purchasers .
some were against it ; the people that were among the last to stop shoveling horse crap .
(politicians have never stopped slinging horse crap about . somethings never change)

as far as "complicated" goes ...
life is pretty much as complicated as one allows/makes it .
fully , 95% of the "problems" in my life are of my own making in the final analysis .
it is what i choose to do or have chosen to do that lead to the results/consequences of those actions .

[David H. Lipman]

CWB, on 26 April 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

i have a couple of ST-225 HDs ...
what is the blue plastic rectangle on the bottom of the pcb for ?

I haven't picked up and old Seagate 5 1/4" drive in 20 years so I don't recall. Take a close-up photo (macro mode) and post it. Maybe it'll jog the the old noodle.

DrBOP, on 26 April 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

But also, the net (although WONDERFUL in MANY ways) seems to have become mostly consumer-oriented. Pages taking FOREVER to load ; servers getting gunged up with all kinds of crap ; the MOST IRRITATING flash ads imaginable ; neat programming being unnecessarily updated over time where it becomes useless ; and when you do find something that works well, or feeds your inner needs/desires, you can bet dollars to donuts that it will get f*cked up soon enough. For example, it's drivin' me crazy watchin' Google simply becoming the new version of Big Blue IBM. Many of their latest missives are ALL about serving the major corporations in the world (i.e., "How can we reimagine old major corporations advertising campaigns so that they get a better response from internet users?")

So, am I becoming like my parents were? It seems like many of you folks have been around awhile......is anybody else getting a little weary of the schmaltz? I have seriously contemplating chuckin' it all and heading for Maui. If I need to check emails, or see what the Onion is up to, or check out Funny Or Die's latest, I'll head for the local library's computers (which hopefully will be hooked-up to a mainframe network) where at least the pages will load quickly. And spend the majority of my time enjoying the sun and the sand. Sure, even that could get a bit boring, but at least I wouldn't have to put up with ANOTHER Netfucks pop-up.(And getting to the point where one could actually be bored with the sun and sand would HAVE to be an enjoyable process, eh?)
And honestly, I'm NOT ranting here.....just tryin' to figure out if this is the first vestiges of FULL BLOWN geezerhood, or are things just getting to be kinda crappy?

Schmaaltz ?
Ayn farshteyn a bissle.

Yes, the Internet has become not a resource for information but a way to make money. Either its Wall Street with their ads, affiliates being aggressive, malicious actors trying to get rich or even the poor and destitute trying to make a few Rupees via Goodle adsense and click revenue.

At the same time... Yeah, we become our parents. Their Generation Gap become our new Generation Gap. It happened in Shakespeare's time and it will with our kid's, kid's.
D'or v D'or. [ דור צו דור ] From generation to Generation.

I see it in me now. For example I think the only difference between RAP and CRAP is the letter "C"

[Firefox]

the blue plastic rectaingle is probably a protective cover of some sort protecting whatever is under it. Assuming you are talking about the one like in this picture http://www.cs.grinnell.edu/drupal6/sites/default/files/museum/90_0.jpg

[David H. Lipman]

Firefox, on 27 April 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

the blue plastic rectaingle is probably a protective cover of some sort protecting whatever is under it. Assuming you are talking about the one like in this picturehttp://www.cs.grinnell.edu/drupal6/sites/default/files/museum/90_0.jpg

Ah, yes. That's the spindle point protective cover.