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Hi - I have been having very bad "lagging" problems with 2 installed games that get a fair bit of use lately - (Wife and Kids love them) - :rolleyes:
They are Bejeweled 2 Deluxe (fully installed from CD) and Cue Club pool / snooker game (fully installed from D/load) - With Bejeweled it seems that the flash player ?? or similar is very unstable at times even though flash player is always updated, and the screen drivers are checked at a regular interval - The screen 'hesitates' and 'shudders' during 'high volume' action - It will not stop but it shows the problems mentioned -
With Cue Club Ijust get occasional minor hesitations during the game, and you can shoot a ball and miss it's track for a split second - The other problem that occurs with Cue Club is that after a game is finished and I exit, the screen icons all end up messed up (usually on the top and left side of screen) - Next to MBAM and other anti virus program icons that remain in their same places -
I can just do a system restore on this, or replace manually but it is getting annoying - :lol:
XP SP3 - 768 Meg memory - 70% free space - Regular MBAM and S A S scans also Avira and Spybot S & D (no tea timer) and AdAware Anniversary Edition -
Regular Defrag and clean downloaded history - IE 8 and F/fox browsers -
Games have been here a while and deleted then reinstalled to check them - Cue Club now on CD as well -
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What CPU and video card do you have installed? Also, what driver version are you using (ie if it's NVIDIA, it'll be Forceware version x and if it's ATI it'll be Catalyst version x)?

You might also install the latest DirectX from here as it might also be helpful.

You should also try a clean install of Flash Player by running the uninstaller from here and installing the latest version again:

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Thanks exile360 - I followed all of those steps and will see if it is better - Thanks Mate - :rolleyes: :lol:
I usually tell others to uninstall all this first too and reinstall but I thought I had the latest -??
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Yeah, unfortunately sometimes some of those Flash files get left behind, that's why I usually recommend using the uninstaller first, then installing the latest, to make sure all the old files are gone and only the new ones are left.
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Not sure if this will or not but it a general post about checking on things that might be slowing down the computer.



Computer and browser slowness are not always malware related

Poor performance and other problems can be the result of disk fragmentation, disk errors, corrupt system files, too many startup programs, unnecessary services running, not enough RAM, dirty hardware, etc. As your system gets older it becomes filled with more files/programs and has a natural tendency to slow down so cleaning and regular maintenance is essential.

Listed below are a few things you can do to improve speed and system performance. Many of the these suggestions will apply if you're using Windows Vista but may be done a bit differently. Near the bottom of this thread there is a section specifically devoted to Vista Users.

For browser problems, see:
If your having connectivity issues or errors such as Page cannot be displayed see
If you're using Vista or Internet Explorer 7, see
If you have a lot of toolbars and add-ons attached to Internet Explorer, you could try improving performance by disabling those which are unecessary. See: Vista users see:
Clean up your hard drive by removing unused programs and transferring old data, pictures, music files to a CD or an external hard drive.

When you have moved/saved the files you want to keep, run Disk Cleanup and let it scan your system for files to remove. Don’t clean out the Prefetch folder - This is a common myth that will not improve performance.

You may be instructed to remove prefetch files if you had experienced some virus/malware issues otherwise removing prefetch files is not really necessary. Although the prefetch folder can become quite bloated in time, removing old prefetch data as a matter of routine is not recommended. Your boot time immediately after clearing the prefetch folder is much slower...but it will speed up after the first reboot when windows begins to put back some of the files that you removed.

As an alternative to Disk Cleanup you can download and scan with CCleaner.
(Scroll to the last one and click the "CCleaner Slim"...it has no toolbar that comes packaged with it)
  • After installation, see see the CCleaner Tour: Using and Understanding CCleaner
  • Make sure you go to Options-->Advanced and uncheck the box to Only delete files in Windows Temp folders older than 48 hours before running a scan
  • An added benefit of using CCleaner is the Issues scan which allows you to clean the registry
  • Always back up your registry before making any changes

Check for any unnecessary running services

If you have a typical installation, many services are configured as "automatic"; that is, they start automatically when the system starts or when the service is called for the first time. Use Black Viper's "Services Configuration" to help fine tune this area.

Check for disk errors by running CHKDSK in "SAFE MODE" or from the Recovery Console

In the Check Disk dialog box, select the "Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors" check box, click "Start" and have it repair anything it finds. As you use your hard drive, it can develop bad sectors which slow down hard disk performance and make data writing difficult. Check Disk scans the hard drive and verifies the logical integrity of a file system by checking for system errors, lost clusters, lost chains, and bad sectors. When encountering logical inconsistencies in file system data, it will perform the necessary actions to repair the file system data.

Check for damaged, altered or missing critical system files by running the System File Checker

If SFC discovers that a protected file has been damaged, altered or missing, it restores the correct version of the file from the cache folder.
You must be logged on as an administrator or as a member of the Administrators group to run sfc and it may ask you to insert your XP Installation CD so have it available.

Defrag your system

Disk fragmentation slows the overall performance of your system. When files are fragmented, the computer must search the hard disk when a file is opened. Disk Defragmenter consolidates fragmented files and folders on the hard disk so that each occupies a single space on the disk. This speeds up reading and writing to the disk. Read "The Importance of Disk Defragmentation" for instructions.

Note: It is recommended to shut down all applications (including your Anti-virus) before running Defrag to ensure that no programs attempt to write to the drive while it is being defragmented. Not doing so may cause you to have to restart the entire process. If you have disabled all running programs and still find that the defrag routine is constantly interrupted, you can defrag from "SAFE MODE".

Check for any unnecessary applications loading at startup when Windows boots by using MSConfig

Some startup programs are necessary so be careful what you disable. If you are unsure what any of the startup entries are or if they are safe to disable, then search one of the following Startup Databases:
Note: MSConfig.exe is a troubleshooting utility used to diagnose system configuration issues. Although it works as a basic startup manager, msconfig should not be used routinely to disable auto-start programs. It is a temporary solution and not a good practice for several reasons. When uninstalling programs while disabled with msconfig, they may not be uninstalled properly and orphaned entries often will be left behind. When used to switch back to normal startup mode, these orphan entries can result in boot up errors. Further, msconfig does not list all applications loaded in all possible startup locations (some entry points are hidden and unknown to the user) and does not allow the complete removal of disabled entries from its list.

You should not use msconfig to disable startup applications related to a running service. Doing so alters the registry and there are services that are essential for hardware and booting. When you uncheck a service in msconfig, you completely disable it. If you uncheck the wrong one, you may not be able to restart your computer. You should only disable services using Control Panel-->Administrative Tools-->Services.


A better alternative is to use a startup manager. If you have Spybot S&D installed, launch it, go to Mode and select Advanced. Then go to Tools, select System Startups. You will be provided with a list of programs that load when Windows starts. If you untick an entry it will no longer run at startup. This will allow you to experiment and see how your system performs with any of them disabled. Other startup managers you can download and use for free are:
Remove any third party "Memory Manager" or "Optimizer"

Windows XP memory management was designed to make the best use of Ram and these memory management utilities defeat that purpose. They push applications out of RAM into the pagefile, creating holes in the RAM and slowing down your computer's performance by doing so.

Disable some visual effects

While visual embellishments may be attractive, they don’t do anything else for you. Disabling some of them frees up system resources and makes the operating system perform better.
  • Right click My Computer, choose Properties-->Advanced then click on Settings
  • In the Visual Effects tab, select Adjust for best performance or uncheck all the visual effects, except for the last three
  • Click "Apply", then "Ok", then "Ok" again
  • Then right click your Desktop and choose Propertie-->Appearance-->Effects
  • Uncheck the first two boxes and hit "OK"

Add more RAM

This is a quick solution that can have a dramatic affect on your system's speed and responsiveness. You can check how much RAM you have by going to Start-->Program Files-->Accessories-->System Tools-->System Information and look at your System Summary. For more info see "Understanding, Identifying and Upgrading the RAM in your PC".

For more suggestions and performance tips read:

"Restore Your Computer's Performance with Windows XP"
"XP Performance Tweaks"
"Performance Boost for XP"

For Vista Users:

Vista Features Explained: Performance
Vista Features Explained: SuperFetch
SuperFetch & ReadyBoost
Tips to boost Vista performance
Windows Vista Performance Tuning
Top 12 Tweaks To Improve Vista Looks and Performance

When you are all done be sure to Create a new Restore Point to enable your computer to "roll-back" to a clean working state keeping all the changes you just made. Then use Disk Cleanup to "remove all but the latest Restore Point".

Vista Users can refer to these links:
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WOW - Thank you AdvancedSetup :lol: This is about 10 times more than I had hoped for -

After I read all this , I must get back to the forum after a day or 2 - I looked at a few topics briefly and there is one heck of a lot there - :rolleyes:
Exile 360 will copy this to post it elsewhere and I hope he does - It is full of Good information for all - Even though some is basic (C CLeaner etc )
Thanks again - Read on Exile 360
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:rolleyes: , yeah, that's a lot of info. It's all pretty basic stuff, but most of the info should be read by every PC user to keep their computer running smooth :lol: .

You never answered my questions though (see my first post above). It will help to diagnose the cause of the problem, that is if doing all that other stuff AdvancedSetup posted doesn't fix it of course.
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Good read is good for the mind and what exile360 said. :rolleyes:

Also, whats the make and model number of your computer, I see you have only 768 mb memory(1x512mb and 1x256mb = 768mb) is this correct. If you have the option to add more memory/ do so, this may help in the lagging problem. When was the last time you cleaned the inside of your computer.

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I did not write up this article and I'm not sure who did originally. I just found it a while back and have posted it a couple times. I probably need to review the article and verify that its up to date and clean it up if not and then post it in the PC forum.

So shout outs to whomever took the time to create this article in the first place.
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View Postexile360, on Sep 13 2009, 09:28 PM, said:

:lol: , yeah, that's a lot of info. It's all pretty basic stuff, but most of the info should be read by every PC user to keep their computer running smooth :P .

You never answered my questions though (see my first post above). It will help to diagnose the cause of the problem, that is if doing all that other stuff AdvancedSetup posted doesn't fix it of course.
Sorry, but Ron hit in with all that while I was looking - (Pentium 4 /CeleronD) Not sure of Vid card -Just woke up - Will try to find out - :rolleyes:
Video appears to be SiS 661 FX - ?? That is what is listed -
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@ sho-dan
Thanks a lot of good (some basic again) but it wants me to purchase programs (will skip that bit) But rest is good general info that we all forget :rolleyes:
The "clear writing script" would be great on F/Fox as it seems to have more ?distorted? writ text - Hope it improves that too -
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View PostAdvancedSetup, on Sep 14 2009, 04:57 AM, said:

I did not write up this article and I'm not sure who did originally. I just found it a while back and have posted it a couple times. I probably need to review the article and verify that its up to date and clean it up if not and then post it in the PC forum.

So shout outs to whomever took the time to create this article in the first place.
It is VERY good basics and at times a bit past basic (still relates to IE 7 - Most will have 8 ) Thanks again - :rolleyes:
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View Postnoknojon, on Sep 13 2009, 05:10 PM, said:

@ sho-dan
Thanks a lot of good (some basic again) but it wants me to purchase programs (will skip that bit) But rest is good general info that we all forget :rolleyes:

What programs are you talking about ? hmmm the google ads, basic is all thats needed to start with and the easiest to remember. :lol:
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@ sho-dan
Sorry but I did miss the last bit on your answer - The computer is "labeled" Samsung (most likely just assembly) - :lol:
You are right about the memory (computer shows 900mb ??) -Last clean was 2? weeks ago (thread in Hon Memb area when I reassembled fan after clean) -
Asking Mrs for cash to at least get another 512 mem card or is 1gig too big to replace the 256 stick - I need a few more part time jobs yet - (semi retired and on pension) - :P
Motherboard is ASUS with Pentium 4 processor - Documentation says it will support up to 2Gig - :rolleyes:
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You need to look at your computer's documentation to see how much memory each slot will handle. My personal experience is that 1.5 gig of ram total works very well with XP. Some games are very demanding on video capability. If your machine is relatively low end (integrated motherboard video with shared video memory), you may just be out of luck.

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Thanks - I was more wondering if there would be any conflicts if I changed the 250 stick to a 1Gig - According to my manual it takes up to 1Gig in each -
If there seems to not be anyone that thinks a 750 jump causes any conflict then that is my ultimate aim - No need to change the 512 stick - :rolleyes:
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@ noknojon

right now ram is at its lowest prices, even for brand names ie: Kingston,
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View Postyardbird, on Sep 14 2009, 12:47 PM, said:

@ noknojon
right now ram is at its lowest prices, even for brand names ie: Kingston,
Only lists Kingston for smaller ram & ? Micron / Twinmos? for 1 Gig - But that is a few years old (might be updated now, will look) Thanks -
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View Postnoknojon, on Sep 13 2009, 07:56 PM, said:

Only lists Kingston for smaller ram & ? Micron / Twinmos? for 1 Gig - But that is a few years old (might be updated now, will look) Thanks -

what kind of ram? I have a few on-line stores I bought from, and an FYI exile360 might have a bigger list at good prices
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@ yardbird
My manual only lists Kingston brand up to 512mb - After that there is only the one listing for 1Gig is -Brand /Micron - Vendor/Twinmos - :rolleyes:
Not sure about my listing of Vid card to exile360 above - Look right to you ??-
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