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[RubbeR DuckY]

Some weeks ago we presented evidence demonstrating that the Chinese company IObit had stolen Malwarebytes' database and incorporated it into their software. In the days that followed we saw a complete denial of wrongdoing by IObit. They ascribed the matches between their database and our own to anonymous sample submissions, a dubious claim which we debunked.

Nevertheless, IObit did subsequently remove all of Malwarebytes' definitions from their database (thereby cutting their database size by ~40% in one fell swoop). Though we did not receive an apology from them, nor any official acknowledgment of their theft, this reaction speaks for itself. Removal of our intellectual property was what we wanted, and we therefore consider that we have won. We thank the community, online media outlets and our partners for their support in helping us achieve this favorable result.

We have documented here and here how IObit's in-the-wild detection rates dropped from over 70% to under 20% overnight after removing Malwarebytes' definitions from their database. Unsurprisingly, IObit has abruptly ended its anti-malware comparison testing program. We invite all users to continue to compare our detection rates against in-the-wild malware to IObit's over the next several months. We know who we believe will be on top. And we look forward to continuing to improve our products and help the online community at large.

Marcin Kleczynski

[mountaintree16]

Thank you for the update, Marcin.

I'm glad that they have removed the database, although I wish that they had apologized to you too.

[Firefox]

That is great, well done MBAM and congrats on your win, although I think an apology would be nice as well, but I think we all know that they will never do that.

[Beenthere]

I'm glad it's sorted out at last...(or I hope so)

[Efwis]

that is great news Marcin. Yes they definately should issue a formal apology, but thieves rarely do apologize for something they have done. I bet their software will start losing customers now.

[catscomputer]

Thanks for the update. I'm glad to hear they've removed the MBAMs definition files. It is a shame they haven't seen fit to own up and apologise for what they did, but as the saying goes: What goes around comes around... I'm a great believer in that. MBAM as a company has spades of integrity, and it happens to be a great product - so you guys definitely win!

[sho-dan]

job well done! Marcin

[noknojon]

@ Marcin -
Well put - They say there was an apology , but I never saw it in actual print (non admission still) - I hope they now think first and act later -
The dispute will never be fully over until they PM you and say 'sorry' -

[Omega40]

Well done, well done, MBAM!

[leofelix]

IoBit tests were ridicoluos, they compared regular antispyware/antimalware with rogue LOL.


I'm with you and I hope they will apologize even if it seems they are able to deny the obvious.


Hold your heads up Marcin, Bruce and all MalwareBytes' Corporation!

All the best

[Kenny94]

Well, IOBit got avarice. And it caught up with them. As the old saying goes:

Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered!

[Triple Helix]

Well done and thanks for the update!

TH

[DragonMaster Jay]

It sure was proven after they immediately removed the definitions...sort of like they were caught red-handed, and made an escape as things got ugly.

(@MysteryFCM):: Does this still stand: hosts-file.net/?s=iobit.com Fraudulent Security Application?

[Marcus]

Marcin, that's a generous statement toward a company plainly indulging in intellectual property theft. Good on Malwarebytes' staff for standing up to this theft. Good job done there.

I wouldn't put it past them though to try it on again

[Merijn]

Congrats on this conclusion, Marcin (et al.). I suspected a public apology from IOBit would be impossible, but this is equally humiliating for them.

On a side note, I notified TrendMicro that IOBit is stealing all the functionality of HijackThis in their product.

[turtledove]

That's great news Marcin
MBAM team, and all others did a great job on this.

IOBit does need to apologize correctly... though I too doubt we'll see one.

[marktreg]

It's not surprising that IOBit refuses to apologise to MBAM. Thieves who steal things rarely have the mindset to apologise for their actions. Because, if they did have that kind of mindset, they would never have stolen anything in the first place.

The only times I have ever seen thieves apologise for their actions are when they may gain some kind of benefit from the apology. But clearly that is not the case here. An apology implies guilt. And, as far as I can see, IOBit have not admitted to any kind of culpable guilt yet - even though they are OBVIOUSLY guilty of intellectual theft.

So I wouldn't expect an apology anytime soon.

[DragonMaster Jay]

They know they are guilty, they just will not admit it.

[kpgumbo]

I presume that the malware fighting community will be keeping a close eye on iobit from now on especially as merijn said that they have stolen all the functionality of Hijackthis as well. Good to hear its over for a while at least !!!!!

[TheJoker]

I wonder how many other companies data is still in their database though, or did they remove data stolen from others also?