pondus Posted October 4, 2016 ID:1065368 Share Posted October 4, 2016 McAfee cloud AV > https://home.mcafee.com/Secure/CloudAV/HowItWorks.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted October 4, 2016 ID:1065372 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Thanks for the info, they claim its free, but I have not yet downloaded it to test it? Anyone going to test it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Posted October 4, 2016 ID:1065380 Share Posted October 4, 2016 They should just kill the McAfee name and build a new product from scratch at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile360 Posted October 10, 2016 ID:1066100 Share Posted October 10, 2016 On 10/4/2016 at 11:42 AM, Aura said: They should just kill the McAfee name and build a new product from scratch at this point. In all likelihood that's probably what it is (a new product except for the name). I realize that some of the more technically inclined folks may have a low opinion of McAfee, but it is one of the "big two" in the AV space (along with Norton/Symantec) and is practically a household name, so I'm guessing that Intel intends to keep the McAfee branding on their AV/security products/tools for the sake of marketing. They've also got a lightweight little portable HIPS app that I've been testing for a while now. I can't say much about it positive or negative as it hasn't really done much, though it did FP on an installer thanks to its heuristics (classified as "Artemis", which if you check their website, is the name/classification given to objects detected via their heuristics). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanHook Posted October 10, 2016 ID:1066243 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Sounds like a all the program does and upload your files to virus total and report any detections. There was a similar product that did the same thing. I worry about security solutions like these as it takes time to transfer a file from point a to point b, run a scan and send back the results... What could happen during this time? If it freezes the file, or locks it during this time... how does it work for larger files that may be malicious or may not be? How long are we waiting for results... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Posted October 10, 2016 ID:1066244 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Quote Sounds like a all the program does and upload your files to virus total and report any detections. Pretty sure it's against VirusTotal terms of use to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanHook Posted October 11, 2016 ID:1066246 Share Posted October 11, 2016 24 minutes ago, Aura said: Pretty sure it's against VirusTotal terms of use to do that. Well there have been "Anti-Virus" applications that have done it in the past. Considering this is McAfee, they must just upload it to their own scan engine for results then. Either way there is still going to be a delay in regards to scan time and actually detecting the threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Posted October 11, 2016 ID:1066250 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Which Antivirus did it? I doubt any popular ones actually tried to pull that off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanHook Posted October 11, 2016 ID:1066251 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Aura said: Which Antivirus did it? I doubt any popular ones actually tried to pull that off. It wasn't a big name brand AV, I can't remember where I saw it, it was on a security blog like TheHackerNews. It was written in C# I believe and all it did was upload files to VT check the results on the fly. If I can figure out the name of it, I'll let you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanHook Posted October 11, 2016 ID:1066252 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Adding on to this, I'm 90% it was a get rich quick program quickly Frankenstein'd together if you know what I mean. When I was testing it there were many spelling errors in the UI and seemed to be poorly coded. I know it was uploading to virus total however as I logged the requests via fiddler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Posted October 11, 2016 ID:1066253 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Yeah, I don't really consider these real Antivirus programs. Only attempts at them in a hope they make a quick buck or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondus Posted October 12, 2016 Author ID:1066416 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) On 10/11/2016 at 2:55 AM, JordanHook said: It wasn't a big name brand AV, I can't remember where I saw it, it was on a security blog like TheHackerNews. It was written in C# I believe and all it did was upload files to VT check the results on the fly. If I can figure out the name of it, I'll let you know. Was it herdProtect? > http://www.herdprotect.com/index.aspx Edited October 12, 2016 by pondus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondus Posted October 12, 2016 Author ID:1066417 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) On 10/11/2016 at 1:46 AM, JordanHook said: Sounds like a all the program does and upload your files to virus total and report any detections. There was a similar product that did the same thing. I worry about security solutions like these as it takes time to transfer a file from point a to point b, run a scan and send back the results... What could happen during this time? If it freezes the file, or locks it during this time... how does it work for larger files that may be malicious or may not be? How long are we waiting for results... Arguments against cloud-based antivirus > http://www.pandasecurity.com/mediacenter/malware/arguments-against-cloud-based-antivirus/ What’s The Deal With Machine Learning? > https://labsblog.f-secure.com/2016/08/26/whats-the-deal-with-machine-learning/ CrowdStrike Machine Learning and VirusTotal > https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/crowdstrike-machine-learning-virustotal/ Edited October 12, 2016 by pondus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulAllen Posted November 3, 2016 ID:1069982 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Sounds like a good idea herd protect if it doesn't slow traffic down to much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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